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by **Jurph** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:55 am

Googling partial subsets of the second list in today's blog post will get you some fairly NSFW results which point very unsubtly to the answer.

Secretariat could have been on the list again.
Dikembe Mutombo would make the list.
Jimmy Wang and Dick Morris don't.

In short, don't google the members of that list unless you want your boss to be giving you some cock-eyed glances.

by **Orange** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:57 am

I'm gonna guess they're uncircumcised.

by **Ken Jennings** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:45 am

I guess that makes sense for a famous baby (Prince William) or people who might have done nude scenes (Don Johnson?) but how on earth would anyone know Johnny Carson's, uh, status? Or John Dean's?

by **Jurph** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:11 pm

The results I was getting were not so much about the condition of the package but the size. With "lots of other Gentiles" on the list, though, I think Orange and Ken have it right.

As for how they know, well, that's what makes it gossip...!

by **baronworm** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:04 pm

Jurph wrote:The results I was getting were not so much about the condition of the package but the size. With "lots of other Gentiles" on the list, though, I think Orange and Ken have it right.

As for how they know, well, that's what makes it gossip...!

Perhaps you were googling the FIRST list in Ken's blog post?
That would seem to make more sense for the angle you were talking about...
(and in fact, I'm sure that size (as opposed to condition) is indeed the common thread of that first list.)

The following website gives only occasional citation for said gossip, but it matches up many names on the list Ken posted. (Jim Hendrix, Don Johnson, Elvis Presley, etc)

http://www.circumstitions.com/Famous-map.html

by **Alex Boisvert** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:55 pm

So ... should we make this thread the official clearinghouse for trying to solve all the Spy Lists? Or should I start a new thread? I think it could be fun.

by **Ken Jennings** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:08 pm

Feel free. Originally I was thinking it might be a regular feature on the blog, but I don't see how I can hold back progress.

by **Alex Boisvert** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:16 pm

A quasi-regular blog feature would be even better.

by **polarea** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:56 am

Okay so for the first one:

People whose proclivities have led into the beds of the very young, to put it delicately

by **Ken Jennings** » Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:28 pm

Is correct! Isaac Davis is Woody Allen's high school-robbing character in Manhattan.

by **polarea** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 8:26 am

Okay for the second one since no one else is taking a stab:

Men who are known for their extramarital fantasies? I don't think this is completely correct, but works for a few and maybe will lead in the direction of the answer.

by **skullturfq** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:05 am

Can people also indicate which issue we're talking about (month/year) and maybe the page number?

Edit: I didn't notice that this topic had come up again on Ken's blog.

by **skullturfq** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:04 am

polarea wrote:Okay for the second one since no one else is taking a stab:

Men who are known for their extramarital fantasies? I don't think this is completely correct, but works for a few and maybe will lead in the direction of the answer.

I'm not convinced I have the answer either, but the presence of Andy Capp, Harry Helmsley, and Denis Thatcher makes me think it's something along the lines of men whose wives earn more money than them or something in that ballpark.

by **dragongrrl** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:11 am

For the one starting with Andy Capp, I'm going with men who are married to strong women. (men who are whipped).

by **ArtVark** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:31 pm

skullturfq wrote:
polarea wrote:Okay for the second one since no one else is taking a stab:

Men who are known for their extramarital fantasies? I don't think this is completely correct, but works for a few and maybe will lead in the direction of the answer.

I'm not convinced I have the answer either, but the presence of Andy Capp, Harry Helmsley, and Denis Thatcher makes me think it's something along the lines of men whose wives earn more money than them or something in that ballpark.

I thought that too, but the presence of Donald Trump and Tom Tisch makes me think it's something else.

by **Ken Jennings** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:26 pm

Yeah, I think the answer is "henpecked husbands" or something along those lines. (Donald was still married to Ivana at the time.) For a while the "Andy Capp" thing made me think it was going to be something more scandalous, like wives who literally beat their husbands, but sadly I was wrong.

by **dragongrrl** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:03 pm

Ken Jennings wrote:Yeah, I think the answer is "henpecked husbands" or something along those lines. (Donald was still married to Ivana at the time.) For a while the "Andy Capp" thing made me think it was going to be something more scandalous, like wives who literally beat their husbands, but sadly I was wrong.

woohoo

by **skullturfq** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:35 pm

Is this the next one? (June 1988, page 27)

Emily Dickinson
Havelock Ellis
Miss Havisham
Adolf Hitler
Michael Jackson
Henry James
Immanuel Kant
Ed Koch
Daisy Miller
Sir Isaac Newton
Pope John Paul II
Cliff Richard
John Ruskin
Brooke Shields
Andy Warhol
Alexander Woollcott

by **Ken Jennings** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:38 pm

It is indeed. Some members of that list would need to be removed today, but Brooke Shields was actually correct at the time. Not Cliff Richard, but he was close.

by **skullturfq** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:48 pm

Ken Jennings wrote:It is indeed. Some members of that list would need to be removed today, but Brooke Shields was actually correct at the time. Not Cliff Richard, but he was close.

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My guess is that it's something like being a virgin at an atypically late age or being sexually abstinent for a large portion of one's adult life.

by **Ken Jennings** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:46 pm

Yeah, I think the suggestion is that they're all virgins.

Isn't Ed Koch pretty much assumed nowadays to be gay, not asexual?

by **marpocky** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:01 pm

Ken Jennings wrote:It is indeed. Some members of that list would need to be removed today, but Brooke Shields was actually correct at the time. Not Cliff Richard, but he was close.

Actually, according to her, Brooke Shields was off the list by June of 1988 (as mentioned on her Wikipedia page).

...I can't believe I just looked that up.

by **Ken Jennings** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:23 pm

Argh, I forgot the Spy List didn't start in 1986 when the magazine did.

Michael Jackson, however, was still unspoiled.

by **skullturfq** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:45 am

Ok, is this the next one? (Sept 1988, p. 39)

Ginger Baker
Aaron Copland
Agnes de Mille
Douglas Edwards
Graham Greene
Huntington Hartford
Harper Lee
Zeppo Marx
John Mitchell
Les Paul
J. B. Priestley
Roy Rogers
Dean Rusk
Stephen Spender
Edward Teller
Virgil Thomson
Robert Wagner Sr.
Harold Wilson
Sam Yorty

by **Ken Jennings** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:18 am

skullturfq wrote:Ok, is this the next one

Only because Google's Spy archive is still missing a couple issues there.

I couldn't solve this one...no telltale fictional characters, for one thing.

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