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Postby grodney » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:14 am

A question or 2 for the music people in the crowd:

Is there any standard agreement on what makes an "official" band name, especially with regard to whether "The" is part of the name? I hear many bands announced with and without the "the". And on an XM display, for instance, it will vary even for a given band, sometimes with and sometimes without.

The Smiths wikipedia page has "The Smiths" in bold.

But so does the Go-Go's page, even though their album covers and their website don't have a "the".

"The Cure" is bold on wikipedia, and the "the" is in their website, but they appear to have left the "the" off of their album cover for "Wish".

Can you cite other bands (besides The Cure) that have been inconsistent with the "the" on their own album covers?
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Postby skullturfq » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:13 am

I'm unsure about (the) Barenaked Ladies, but also scared to do a Google search on the topic at work.
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Postby marpocky » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:28 am

skullturfq wrote:I'm unsure about (the) Barenaked Ladies, but also scared to do a Google search on the topic at work.


I'm pretty sure they've always left out "The." Same with Talking Heads, although that one is commonly mistaken.
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Postby rockgolf » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:06 am

Most surprising one for me: Eagles. No "the". Ever.

Runner-up (by a long shot): Jonas Brothers.
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Postby porpoise spit » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:35 am

The Verve's first ep was entitled Verve.
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Postby skullturfq » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:40 am

I seem to recall Eurythmics insisting upon no "the", and Wikipedia and Allmusic appear to back me up there, but I'm sure I've heard everyday people refer to them by including the definite article.
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Postby naurae29 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:04 pm

skullturfq wrote:I seem to recall Eurythmics insisting upon no "the", and Wikipedia and Allmusic appear to back me up there, but I'm sure I've heard everyday people refer to them by including the definite article.


who are these crazy everyday people?! i can't imagine saying "the eurythmics," ever!

i've been known to say "the eels" but only because when you ask someone if they've heard of eels, they tend to worry that you think they're stupid. "long, slippery fish? nope, never heard of 'em!"
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Postby skullturfq » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:19 pm

True story, I swear:

One day when I was a teenager, I was sitting in my living room eating some food, and a friend was there visiting.

He asked, "Do you have Sticky Fingers?"

I looked at my fingers, and said something like, "Well, they're not too bad..."

I was eating pancakes with maple syrup at the time. However, as you've guessed, my friend was talking about the Rolling Stones album.
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Postby grodney » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:27 pm

English Beat is another example. Errr, I mean, The English Beat. They are "The Beat" in non-U.S. parts, I hear. I've heard lots of people refer to them as "English Beat", and am fully confused by this album(?) cover that uses with and without the the:
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/the- ... h-beat.jpg

And 5800 people are fans of "English Beat" on facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/EnglishBeatFans
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Postby guidedbyalan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:38 pm

naurae29 wrote:i've been known to say "the eels" but only because when you ask someone if they've heard of eels, they tend to worry that you think they're stupid. "long, slippery fish? nope, never heard of 'em!"


Same precaution goes for asking someone if they've ever heard of Pixies, except that when you say "I saw pixies last night," they should understand you've witnessed a concert.
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Postby jeffwolfe » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:01 pm

What about this band?
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Postby guidedbyalan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:05 pm

jeffwolfe wrote:What about this band?


The The The, I believe they prefer to be called.
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Postby melissa » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:06 pm

To my knowledge, the Beatles have always been "the Beatles" (or The Beatles).

But did those of y'all who read Mental Floss also catch a major error in their description of the album cover of Abby Road?
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Postby naurae29 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:11 pm

the most obviously confusing one is "the band," but "brand new" can also get messy. "hey, have you heard the brand new album?"/"uuuuh, which one?"
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Postby melissa » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:13 pm

naurae29 wrote:the most obviously confusing one is "the band," but "brand new" can also get messy. "hey, have you heard the brand new album?"/"uuuuh, which one?"

Im sure that's the same type of confusion that "the Who" were trying to start with their name.
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Postby guidedbyalan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:20 pm

Smashing Pumpkins have no "The," but people of my age always insisted on placing one there. Smashing Pumpkins makes sense, when you realize the name is just an action, present tense. Same goes for Sting. Which I suppose is one reason it's important to remember it's The Strokes.
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Postby grodney » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:34 pm

Thompson Twins appear to be Thompson Twins everywhere except this EP, on which they are The Thomspon Twins:
http://www.sharoma.com/ttwins/images/th ... ession.jpg
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Postby grodney » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:38 pm

(The) Pointer Sisters appear to go both ways.
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Postby guidedbyalan » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:40 pm

grodney wrote:Thompson Twins appear to be Thompson Twins everywhere except this EP, on which they are The Thomspon Twins:
http://www.sharoma.com/ttwins/images/th ... ession.jpg


When it comes to sleeves, all bets can be off, and can sometimes have nothing to do with the band's wishes. The Beach Boys were called the Pendletones before a producer took it upon himself to write a different name on the tape on their first single, and it stuck.

Also, ELO's debut album is called "No Answer" in the USA, because that's what their record company exec wrote down on a memo after he failed to reach the band by telephone to find out the album's name.
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Postby econgator » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:44 pm

grodney wrote:Thompson Twins appear to be Thompson Twins everywhere except this EP, on which they are The Thomspon Twins:
http://www.sharoma.com/ttwins/images/th ... ession.jpg


And The Moody Blues are The Moody Blues on every album except Sur la Mer, where the "The" go bye-bye.
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Postby Paucle » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:28 pm

melissa wrote:But did those of y'all who read Mental Floss also catch a major error in their description of the album cover of Abby Road?


I didn't read it. What was the error, did they misspell it "Abby Road"? :)
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Postby Bill » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:03 pm

On The West Wing, Josh refers to "The Foo Fighters" and is informed "It's just Foo Fighters."
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Postby melissa » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:28 am

Paucle wrote:
melissa wrote:But did those of y'all who read Mental Floss also catch a major error in their description of the album cover of Abby Road?


I didn't read it. What was the error, did they misspell it "Abby Road"? :)


Any other guesses before I reveal the answer? You would have to have read latest issue of Mental Floss to catch the mistake on Abby Road.
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Postby Ken Jennings » Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:30 am

Oh yeah, wow. They switched George and Ringo. I didn't even notice that first time through.
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Postby braggtastic » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:09 am

It really bothered me when I first uploaded my CDs to itunes that they alphabetized bands starting with The under T, but I see on my ipod that's not the case. When I get home, I'll have to check and see if subsequent updates to itunes fixed that issue.
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