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Postby econgator » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:41 am

rockgolf wrote:Was it the order in which jurors in 12 Angry Men decided to vote Not Guilty?


Yes.
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Postby porpoise spit » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:10 am

rockgolf wrote:Porpoise Spit: That's a great list! Would you be ok if I developed it into a Sporcle quiz? I'd list the nominated actors or actresses and the player would have to id the film.


By all means. Go for it.
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Postby rockgolf » Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:13 am

Thanks, I'll post a link here some time later today.
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Postby rockgolf » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:54 pm

Ok, I've got it set up at http://www.sporcle.com/create/test/10a1d3 - I'm not sure if you can view it or not. To ensure it gets maximum visibility to players, I'll probably post it close to midnight tonight (EDT) or early tomorrow.
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Postby porpoise spit » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:57 pm

Nope, it just redirects to the /game/ page.
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Postby rockgolf » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:10 am

I was afraid that might happen. Anyhow, you can view it now at http://www.sporcle.com/games/rockgolf/t ... ry_goes_to complete with a link back to this thread and credit to Porpoise Spit for the list.

I tried to put the quiz in porpoisesque colors.
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Postby porpoise spit » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:23 am

Thanks so much. And btw, I am bluegingham!
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Postby rockgolf » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:16 am

Well, then, it's worth the effort to put it into 3 columns. Let me know what you think of the revised format.
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Postby porpoise spit » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:17 am

Love it, thanks. And pathetically, I only got 29 of 51!
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Postby econgator » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:37 pm

porpoise spit wrote:Love it, thanks. And pathetically, I only got 29 of 51!


Pathetic is what I got: zero. Seriously, didn't know a single one of them.
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Postby porpoise spit » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:18 pm

Bumping to report that no new films made the list this year.
Animal Kingdom, Blue Valentine, Rabbit Hole, and The Town came close, with one acting nomination and nothing else.
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Postby porpoise spit » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:01 am

Congratulations, My Week with Marilyn! Nominated for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor and nothing else!
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Postby rockgolf » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:15 pm

And I've updated the Sporcle quiz accordingly.
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Postby edvz » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:47 pm

Here's a new list. Again, see if you can add a
movie with the same two traits in common:

All About Eve
Becket
Midnight Cowboy
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Postby bwouns » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:38 pm

edvz wrote:Here's a new list. Again, see if you can add a
movie with the same two traits in common:

All About Eve
Becket
Midnight Cowboy


I'll add Sleuth to your list, which leads me to a different question.

What do these films and (I believe) only these films have in common:

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Sleuth
Give 'em Hell Harry
Doubt
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Postby edvz » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:36 am

bwouns wrote:
I'll add Sleuth to your list, which leads me to a different question.



Good. I take it you mean the older version.

The list is now:

All About Eve[1950]
Becket[1964]
Midnight Cowboy[1969]
Sleuth[1972]


bwouns wrote:What do these films and (I believe) only these films have in common:

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Sleuth
Give 'em Hell Harry
Doubt


Which version of Sleuth?
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Postby gwynn1984 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:58 am

I believe you can add Terms of Endearment to the first list. Also, The Dresser, Network, The Turning Point, Mutiny on the Bounty. Are we talking about the same thing, or do I have this wrong?
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Postby rockgolf » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:19 pm

@Bwouns: Those are the 4 films where...
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every significant actor/actress in the flim received an Oscar Nomination.

@Gwynn: I think they are looking at a specific subcategory to the list you are thinking of, but maybe not. You've identified films that received two (or more) Oscar lead acting nominations in the same category. I think they're looking at 2 Oscar lead acting noms and nothing else.

If you're right, I think we can add Going My Way and Judgment At Nurenberg.
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Postby edvz » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:09 pm

rockgolf wrote:If you're right, I think we can add Going My Way and Judgment At Nurenberg.


If you're talking about my list, no you can't. The Dresser yes. The Turning Point yes.
Mutiny On The Bounty yes.

Thank you gwynn1984, the list (films with two or more leading actors or leading actresses
nominated but none winning) is now:

Mutiny On The Bounty [1935]
All About Eve [1950]
Becket [1964]
Midnight Cowboy [1969]
Sleuth [1972]
The Turning Point [1977]
The Dresser [1983]

This list was inspired by the theory that multiple nominations for the same picture
in either the best actress or best actor categories splits the votes for that picture,
thus reducing the chance of either winning.
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Postby gwynn1984 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:37 am

Ok, now that I understand what edvz was going for, I believe this is the complete list:

Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
All About Eve (1950)
From Here to Eternity (1953)
Giant (1956)
The Defiant Ones (1958)
Suddenly Last Summer (1959)
Becket (1964)
Midnight Cowboy (1969)
Sleuth (1972)
The Turnng Point (1977)
The Dresser (1983)
Thelma & Louise (1991)

These are all the films that had either two (or three) Lead Actor or two Lead Actress nominees, with neither winning.

The ones where one of the two nominees won are:

Going My Way (1944)
Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)
Network (1976)
Terms of Endearment (1983)

So, overall, when a film has had two (or three) Lead Actors or Actresses nominated, one of them has won 4 out of 16 times (25%). Since, I think we would expect one of the actors to win in this situation approximately 40% of the time, your theory that they can cancel each other out might have some merit.

It gets much more complicated when you consider Supporting Actors and Actresses. First of all, it happens much more frequently in the Supporting categories - 17 times for Supporting Actor and 33 for Supporting Actress (including 8 of the last 12 years - one of which is The Help this year).

For Supporting Actor, this has led to a win 5 times out of 17 (30%) and, for Supporting Actress, a win has followed 11 of 33 times (33%).

To make a long story short (too late :)), there is some evidence that having multiple acting nominees from the same film can work against the actors - particularly in the Lead categories. Of course, I have no idea if any of this is statistically significant (but it's fun to think about).
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Postby carlopanno » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:25 am

bwouns wrote:What do these films and (I believe) only these films have in common:

Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
Sleuth
Give 'em Hell Harry
Doubt


If it's what I think it is, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? doesn't qualify. Found that out when I tried to research it for Jeopardy! back in the '80s. That one required a trip to the Margaret Herrick Library.

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Postby bwouns » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:57 pm

The answer to my question is that these are the only movies in which every billed actor/actress was nominated for an oscar (I'm defining this by their name appearing in the opening credits.), not necessarily every credited actor/actress.
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Postby carlopanno » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:05 pm

Here's one:

AFTER THE "BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR" OSCAR CATEGORY WAS ESTABLISHED, HE WON 3 OF THE FIRST 5 AWARDS

Easy to look up, but try to remember.

Also:

THE ONLY PERSON IN ACADEMY HISTORY TO RECEIVE TWO OSCARS FOR THE SAME PART IN THE SAME MOVIE

and if you want to play along, "receive" is an important part of that clue.

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Postby carlopanno » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:08 pm

bwouns wrote:The answer to my question is that these are the only movies in which every billed actor/actress was nominated for an oscar (I'm defining this by their name appearing in the opening credits.), not necessarily every credited actor/actress.


"Billed actor": excellent. An important qualification that makes it a little too quibbly for a "Jeopardy!" clue but a valid question. I was trying to research "entire cast got nominated for Oscars" and a couple of bit players in the roadhouse scenes in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? screwed that up.

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Postby Paucle » Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:21 pm

carlopanno wrote:Here's one:

AFTER THE "BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR" OSCAR CATEGORY WAS ESTABLISHED, HE WON 3 OF THE FIRST 5 AWARDS

Easy to look up, but try to remember.

Also:

THE ONLY PERSON IN ACADEMY HISTORY TO RECEIVE TWO OSCARS FOR THE SAME PART IN THE SAME MOVIE

and if you want to play along, "receive" is an important part of that clue.

--c


trying BRENNAN for the first one?
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